Xbox One

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  1. xenoph

    xenoph Retired Captain

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    So....

    I'm getting it. :p

    What do you all think? I've not watched the whole thing yet, only bits, and read selected portions - but it all seems very promising.
    The integration of Kinect looks great.
     
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    It looks cool, though for me it will depend on the details... subscription cost along with the cost and availability of entertainment sources. I'm pretty frugal, and happy with my current gaming options, so if it's a money sink, I'm probably staying away.
     
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    That was incredibly underwhelming.

    Kinect required to run, xbox live still costs money, dashboard still full of ads, controller still requires AA batteries. Rumour that used games will require a fee although I think microsoft are denying this now. I think games will require online activation though. No real game announcements, apart from Quantum Break everything else was just expected sequels.

    Useless TV features, don't know about you guys but I really don't have that much trouble looking at a TV guide in the paper then pressing a button on a remote. Not that I even watch TV, that's what torrents are for :p

    Wait and see what happens at E3 I guess.

    Sony stock jumped up 9% after the conference so I guess I'm not the only one left unimpressed.
     
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    Ugly looking, not backwards compatible and a fee for used games (from what I have read you need to download the disc to the HDD to play and you will be charged to do that on a 2nd hand disc which may cost the same as buying the game new....) so not that impressed so far but lets see what E3 brings.

    On a good note the HALO tv show sounds awesome.
     
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    A fee to play used games - Check
    Always online - Check
    Need to install games - Check

    Underwhelming - CHECK!
     
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    Bwahahahah! Great link Chief.

    I happened to be up late working so I had the video streaming on the other monitor. To me it wasn't hugely overwhelming, but it left me about as impressed as the PS4 announcement. That is to say - it all looks cool and sounds promising, but as a gamer I'm still not entirely sure what I'm going to get out of it.

    I like that Kinect comes standard in the box - it means developers can count on gamers having it and treat it as a serious part of the console. Especially with the improvements they have made this should allow lots of bits of gaming innovation, both big and small. Same for SmartGlass - with it being integrated in to the console rather than an add-on, it can be treated much more seriously.

    The TV features aren't important to me, and I assume that they will work significantly better in USA then they will in the rest of the world, including here in Australia.

    I haven't played a Call of Duty game for years, but the trailer for this one did look very impressive.
     
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    Can you show me where that has been said? As far as I've gathered, that's not the case.

    PS4 isn't backwards compatible either. And they haven't even shown their console yet (who knows if it's actually built).
    Overall, I think Xbox One looks way more promising than the PS4 - I'll reserve total judgement until I see the games at E3 though.

    Ctrl+Alt+Del - Reveal (2013-05-22)
     
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    XBox 1 its only 359 steps backwards.

    For those who are not in the USA and have access to unlimited bandwidth, and the video services that are geo locked to that country, I am failing to see the great attraction.

    Paying to use second hand games or no taking a game over to a mates place, plus the requirement to pay to play online means that I am not likely to venture down the path of this console like I failed to with its predecessor.

    I now eagerly await the next sony console to see if that will make me want to go out and spend $$.
     
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    Apparently the TV reception includes HDMI input, IPTV, but also over-the-air broadcast via a TV tuner (probably sold as an attachment), so that part should work in Australia just fine. Whether on not they launch with that functionality in Australia is a different question.

    Regarding the always-on requirement - Microsoft have said that the console will support connection to their Azure platform, and various publishers may use this for off-site processing, or one-time authentication, or weekly check-ins, or always-on DRM or nothing at all. If "always-on" isn't a fundamental part of the console, I'm happy with the options provided to developers.

    From Exclusive First Look at Xbox One | Gadget Lab | Wired.com:
    While they may still hamper used game sales, it looks like they might actually make it easier to take your game over to a mates place and play a few rounds.
     
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    The ones makes the most out of used game sales are the stores anyway.

    Personally, I don't really like buying used games since I know that the only one making a profit is the store (and what a profit they make - take in a game and get £5 for it - they'll sell it for £30+. I've often seen used games cost more than new games!!), and it means that the company making the game doesn't see any money, nor do they know if I as a consumer like the game and would purchase similar in the future.
     
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    Xbox One Does Require Internet Connection, Can't Play Offline Forever

    Couple that with Kinect always being on and "listening" to you also make people kind of worried what kind of information they are gathering with the console about their consumers :p. Then again you can just unplug the Kinect IF the Xbox works without it :p
     
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    Once a day is hardly always on, though. Saying that, living in a country where it's unnatural to -not- have high-speed internet, I've never seen the issue with always on either - so I shan't argue too much on that subject regardless.

    The kinect is only listening to the phrase 'xbox on'. Say what you want about Microsoft, but I doubt they'd be recording things unless you sign up for it.

     
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    Microsoft completely underwhelmed me with this one.

    The 360 was the worst console I've ever owned. Cheaply made, chock full of ads, and requiring a monthly subscription to use features. I vowed that the next offering had to really wow me to even be considered worthy of my money.

    So now they're pushing a device that replaces my cable box. Whoopty-doo, I already have a device that does that - it's called my cable box.

    Do I need voice commands? Well, considering how well they work on my phone, I'll pass.

    And finally, because I am an avid collector of old consoles and games, the online portion of the console disturbs me. What happens when they shut down the servers it connects to years down the road? I'll be a useless paperweight. Just like my 360 that doesn't output video anymore.

    No thanks Microsoft.
     
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    It is built around Kinect that is enough for me to say NO.

    The only thing that will get me to buy it is if Red Dead Redemption 2 is an exclusive.
     
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    a game console that wants to be a tv remote, wow. :w
     
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    thing is they could hide some language in some eula crap that we all agree to before we load any update, game etc, and there is your opt in.

    I dont trust em at all. Data collection = big bucks.

    and all of this because why? because having a person push a power on button was some sort of 18th century brutal chore?
     
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    Currently, to play my PS3 I pick up the controller and press the PS button in the middle - the console and TV do the rest. It's really convenient and makes me much more likely to kick about in a game for 10 minutes while I wait for my wife to get ready to go out.

    I think being able to say "Xbox on" and have it rapidly boot the console, turn on the TV, change the channel to the Xbox input, do the same to my surround sound, etc - that's all good stuff. Sure, I was capable of standing up and pushing a button or two, but I'm also capable of walking to work, and yet I drive. These little conveniences are... convenient!
     
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    So you still go over to the TV and use the buttons there, not a remote, I presume? ;)
    Progress and convenience.
     

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