360: Forza Horizon

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  1. GiantDave7

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    Anyone else picking up Forza Horizon today? Always looking to add more competition to my rivals list. :)
     
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    Mines orderd wont be here till release date of Friday 26th in UK ;( but ill be up for soem speed camera adn score rivalry :D
     
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    Hi! I'm new to TOG but a long time GT and Forza addict. Loving Horizon, would be happy to have a few new Horizon friends / rivals:

    RaindancerAU on Xbox Live - please add me.
     
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    I created a Car Club we can join. TOGR is the tag since TOG, T0G, TOGs, and many more were taken.

    I've sent invites to folks except GiantDave7 since I'm unsure of your XBox gamertag but you should be able to request to join in game.

    First invite went to EvilD which if accepted will make him the Co-Leader whatever that entails. I figured since he's in a different timezone if we have to accept invites and the like it would be best. Here is hoping we get a few folks signing up to get some friendly rivalry going. :)

    I've shared a few cars in the garage in case that helps anyone out.
     
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    Looks like I was first to accept the invite so I'm a co-leader or something :) I think you can have 3 co-leaders though or officers as it were. I'm happy to transfer it over if need be.

    I've shared some cars as well. I actually finished the campaign loop on Saturday and spent Sunday tidying up all the races I had not done. The only thing I have not completed are the Skill based PR Challenges on the outposts, I've completed one but I do find it difficult to score high chained skill combos too consistently. I've pulled a few out but they tend to be very situational.

    I've earnt a fair bit of money, have 100% discounts and have a fairly large stable of cars including some expensive ones. I've shared an Aventador J, Sesto Elemento, 250 California, MC12 Versione Corse and 599XX so far, but if anybody would like to trial a car just let me know and I can share it maybe (if I have it). I can also modify it to whatever spec since I have the 100% discount.

    Anyway, much like say, Diablo, the game is only getting started once you've finished the campaign. I can now dedicate time to playing with the cars themselves and just driving around trying things. If you have a good sound system for instance, there is a tunnel underneath the dam that has never had traffic every time I head down ;) Wow! I have to drive through in cockpit view, bonnet view and behind the car view it sounds so good.

    Yeah, I've spent way too much time in Horizon since I picked it up (neglected Planetside 2 this weekend! :shock:) but this is the game I've been wanting since Gran Turismo. It's not perfect but I'll accept its flaws and just hope that Horizon does well enough for a sequel of Gran Turismo 2 or Forza Motorsports 4 scale and caliber. Having a brilliant time as it is and can't wait for some more DLC.

    I'm keen to try some of the Co-op stuff too - should we jump on TeamSpeak and give it a go some time?
     
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    I noticed the extra Co-Leader slots. Given it's only two of us so far I don't see it being an issue. :p

    I only got the game Saturday evening so I've got plenty to go yet. Certainly enjoying it though and now have two people for Rivals which is a great feature and added challenge. I had someone ask to add me as a friend after seeing my car design in case I do more. A happy consequence given I honestly didn't think anyone would see it let alone download it. :)

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    I'm only up to the Blue Wristband and still getting back into a racer as it's been a while. I'm still on Medium difficulty for the AI and can't see myself switching that up any time soon. I'm making heavy use of Rewind but have the controls as assist free as I'm willing to risk on a controller. Ie Normal steering and no clutch with braking line on still to save using Rewind more often. :p

    I know what you mean about the skill challenges. I've done 3 out of 4 I tried but that 4th one I just had to give up as I was nowhere near getting it any time soon. The trick seems to be chaining the skills together for a big multiplier even if it means hitting signposts to do it and ends up involving luck with getting the correct traffic for those near miss bonuses in the correct spots. It's the hardest part of the game so far given you can't just tweak the difficulty for it.

    I'm not quite ready for co-op yet, but I might be by the weekend. Switching my headset back to the 360 and just using XBox Live for chat might be easier than bridging 360 and PC for Teamspeak, though I can do that since the chat audio is separate to game audio on my headset.

    It would be nice to get more folks joining us but I guess a lot of people don't realize TOG have folks playing everything under the sun including racers. :(
     
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    Cool - I don't have graphic design type skills - I normally just paint the car a colour I like and leave it at that :D

    I've been playing driving games pretty consistently since the original Gran Turismo. I can't stand the ones that are too arcadey, so I never got into the likes of Project Gotham or any of the NFS series, Burnout, Driver, Dirt, Grid etc. It's mainly been Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsports with the occasional flirt with Midnight Club and Tokyo Extreme Racer. So happy that Horizon turned out to be a happy middle ground between FM and the latter two games there.

    In FM, I have no assists on, simulation damage and steering, no rewind, no clutch (I think it is pointless on a controller) and only the braking line. In FH I have the full driving line on most of the time because I sometimes have trouble seeing turnoffs in cockpit view, which is my preferred viewpoint. Also, if it is a longer race and I couldn't be bothered re-doing it cos I really want the money, I'll turn rewind on.

    Highest skill chain so far is about 27k - did it at high speed on the Freeway in the V8 RUF (whatever it is called - can't remember) and I wasn't even intending to. I think I was in fact going for a speed run :lol:

    IRL my car ownership history has included an R33 Skyline GTS25t which I had for 7 years before it was stolen and stripped . Great car to learn to drift in, perhaps a steeper learning curve than ideal due to all the power and the fact that it was not a lightweight (not exactly heavy though). I spent a few years with a pedestrian luxo barge before buying my current 2011 Renault Sport Megane RS250 Cup Trophee (phew what a mouthful) in January and I'm still head over heels in love with it. I actually use a part of it as my avatar :)

    I've done track days, mainly Wakefield Park in Goulburn and am very partial to hitting up twisty bits of road like the Old Pacific Highway, Royal National Park, Putty Road, Bells Line of Road, Bylong Valley Way, the Alpine Way etc.

    Here's me and the 250 getting to know each other about a month after I got it. I have two passengers with me and you can hear the genuine gasps of astonishment at the cornering prowess of the 250, but you might need to turn it up a bit - the microphone on the camera was not great - it's worth it for the engine noise though:

     
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    lol I'm a programmer and never thought of myself as having graphic design type skills. I just had some fun with decals, etc :)

    Hmm, no rewind. There is no way I'd beat some of your rival times without that, at least not without a LOT of practice!

    Sadly my "spare" cash goes into gaming and my home theater setup. I'd have loved to drive something nice IRL but have to confine my antics to the safety of the digital domain. Maybe I'll have midlife crisis soon and buy something nice. :)

    Nice car though!

    I'm not sure what my best skill chain would be. I'd assume it would have been for one of the PR stunts. After numerous attempts I've had one or two that I've just got lucky and totally smashed them. It's a pity the ForzaMotorsport.net site doesn't show you stats like that.

    EDIT: It's 34,800 apparently in a Mercedes something so must have been a PR Stunt.
     
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    Admittedly, I used rewind last night to beat a couple of your rival times :lol: I didn't realise it until I accidentally mashed it when fumbling the controller to answer my phone. I had enabled it in freeroam so I could watch some replays and then I thought "screw it, why not?" :lol: Turn rewind off when you want to make a lot of money, if you need to practice certain corners until you get them right, rewind is awesome.

    The reason I described my automotive history was to make it clear that I'm a seasoned veteran and if you're just getting back into driving games to not be discouraged :) Some of your times have already been tough to beat :) I'm a part of a Renault forum and the guys on there are proper hardcore. There is one dude who is regularly in the top 100 on FM4 rivals :shock: Having a hard time convincing anyone over there to join in on Horizon for some reason (not having any Renaults in the game does not help). Odd because I've been on dawn drives through mountains roads with those guys, so I thought this would resonate with a lot of them :confused:

    I added GiantDave7 to friends, he is already in a car club but if you have him as a friend, you can just turn to the "Friends and Club" filter - we just cannot share cars.

    Yeah the 250 is probably a mid-life crisis car .... then again, most of the cars I have owned have been sports cars of some description /shrug.

    Awesome work on the skill chain - I wonder if you can help me with my PR stunts :)
     
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    I haven't paid attention to what sort of bonus having rewind off nets you. I haven't, as yet, found credits to be an issue unless I wanted to splurge and buy cars I don't need to progress. I guess once I want to collect a few it might be.

    Cool. Some of the reviews make it sound like the FM4 engine hasn't made it intact into Horizon. I haven't actually played FM4 so I couldn't comment on that, but I'd guess that would discourage some of the more hardcore, though judging by the world rivals list there are still plenty of them playing.

    Yeah I have him on my friends list now too. :)

    I didn't mean the mid life crisis thing as a dig. If I could afford it I would have owned something like that since my teens. If I'd had real money I'd have got into rallying as I had a family friend that did it when I was younger.

    I think I'm down to 2 or 3 PR stunts to go so I'm doing OK but some are seriously tough. The main tip is don't feel you have to stick to the prescribed route, and you HAVE to chain. In some cases that's meant exploring to find something I can get Sideswipe and Landscaping bonuses on then combining those with Ultimate Wreckage/Burnout for huge combos. In others it's meant Near Misses, Speed, Drift, etc bonuses followed by a Huge 180 and more of the same.

    The easiest way to extend a chain is often wreckage (ie clip the odd sign post at the side of the road) or in some cars just going as fast as you can and as close as you can to everything in sight. Good luck!
     
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    Hey awesome a TOG club!!
    I'm not too sure if I have you guys on my friends list so add me please if you dont... xMeOnFirEx
    Also please send me an invite to the Club!! :D
     
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    MeOnFire: Awesome! great to have another keen TOGer - I can get you setup in about an hour if Hastarin does not beat me to it :)

    I think rewind off gives you maybe an extra 10% on earnings.

    Thanks for the tip on the PR stunts - I always drove the specified path, which was way restrictive, but now that I know I can do whatever as long as I get the points in time, it's game on :) I'm going to go inspect the areas around the outposts and plan my strategies :)

    I didn't take the mid life crisis comment as a dig in the slightest :) It very well could be an MLC for me, but at the same time, I'm not sure if I ever really grew up :lol: I'm actually a bit young for that by the "standard" definition of it occuring somewhere between 40 and 60, I'm 36. Also I'm not married and have no children and I love my job / career mostly, so most of the factors that help the onset of it aren't really there for me .... but I'm also keenly aware that 36 x 2 = 72 .... Anyway, getting a bit deep and personal there - more driving and more Horizon!
     
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    Friend and Club invite sent for xMeOnFirEx :)

    We've had "The Wookie SOB" join us too. Not sure who that is but hopefully another TOGer. Or maybe they just wanted to join the cool kids.

    lol I'm 38 here and will get back to burning rubber. :p

    PS Going to go for those last 2 PR Stunts tonight but so far it's proving to be an exercise in pointless frustration. :p
     
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    Wow, this is one of the two I've been having trouble with:


    I'm going to see if I can chain drifts like he's doing.
     
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    Turns out it's 20% which is pretty decent. I just turned it off for now. :D
     
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    I accepted Wookie and proceeded to go after his speed camera scores. Then he quit :lol: I'm sure the two are unrelated, but yeah he actually sent a request to join the club and I accepted /shrug

    I can't stand being frustrated in these games anymore, that's what prevented me from going too hard in FM4 rivals, especially Autocross :evil: So I'm likely not to bother with the outposts until I can consistently get high skill chains. Incidentally, I got a 34k skill chain last night going after one of your speed camera records and all I did was drive fast on the freeway (lots of speed + lots of near miss + occasional wreckage and occasional air :lol:).

    btw your CCX-R is bloody fast. I had a few goes at the 413kmh record and keeping speed up and over the bridge is super tough. My EB110 with a fully tricked out Veyron SS engine was just too unstable at 420kmh, so over the rise and through the slight left kink I was four wheel drifting at over 410kmh through traffic ..... other cars I tried couldn't even hit 400kmh there - F40 with twin turbo Enzo engine, Sesto Elemento with twin turbo Aventador engine - pretty sure they were both well clear of 1000hp too, maybe I need to remove the spoilers but then I dread to think of how easily they'll spin.

    I'm going to try a Huayra and my One-77 as well to see how they fare. Else I'll be going racing to buy a faster car (can't believe I'm saying that with the cars I've already mentioned :lol:).

    For sh!ts and giggles, I put a twin turbo Enzo engine into my '57 250 Testarossa. Woah! :shock: You don't need 1st and 2nd gear at all, just drift in 3rd and 4th everywhere - it's a riot - I'm going to share it tonight - I encourage everyone to try it.

    I'm going to do the same with the DBR1 and the D-type as well.
     
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    Ah well, I guess he was a random then.

    Nice. Speed (Daredevils, etc) is the main way I can get a decent chain going. I did manage the above challenge after about an hour of trying last night. Though I only got 29.5k not anywhere near the guy in the video. I have one outpost (upper right one) with the one skill stunt left now. It's a Lexus downhill and I am probably going to have to find another video for ideas because I've had 0 luck trying so far I don't even come close.

    I can stand limited frustration. If there was no challenge at all there'd be no point playing. Well apart from the joy of flying along over 400 kmh or the sounds of some of these cars or cresting a hill at sunrise into oncoming traffic or .... OK there is plenty to still enjoy in this game. :D

    Yeah I bought that last night after looking at some of the top ranked speeds and then used Auto Upgrade then put some chrome rims on it and wider tires. I can share it later. It tops at out at 414 in it's current configuration. I'm sure it could go faster if I sacrificed some handling but not sure I could keep it on target then.

    Yeah my Ford Focus ST '13 that I've been mostly driving with the upgraded engine has far too much power for it's own good particularly with TCS off. I actually dropped it back to the original upgraded engine for cruising about in. I do wonder how long it's going to take me to actually finish the game with all the time I'm spending just exploring and fooling around but I guess that's the point. :)

    I know you can auto downgrade cars for races. I do wonder if that will work with the garage cars. I haven't actually tried any garage cars yet. Too busy having fun with the ones I have. :p
     
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    I seriously find it very liberating that I can run around doing what I want now. Having zero costs for all upgrades is brilliant, I can play and play with the cars to my heart's content :)

    I noticed the traction issues you have with the Focus on a rivals run - My car was not particularly great for traction either but I got away from the line so much cleaner than you :lol: I have a similiar issue in my RS500 (I believe you run an RS500 engine in yours).

    Take your time with the game, do whatever you feel like and play at your own pace, it's exactly that kind of game. I was in a rush to get to the point where I could really feel like I could just explore and play. There are some very interesting places to try stunts and the like on ;) We should do a co-op sometime that you feel like just roaming around. Can do whatever - practice drifting and skill chains and the like, try two wheeling, jumps, tunnel runs with loud exhausts etc. Lots of fun to be had.

    I auto downgrade my cars all the time for rivals. Sometimes they require finer tuning so I do need to return to the garage and reattempt the race, but that's all good and part of the fun for me.

    Here's a tip. Say you are upgrading an ancient car that has cross ply tyres and a 4 speed gearbox. You definitely want sport tyres and a race gearbox but are unsure how else to round out your car. Go into Custom Upgrade, buy the components you need and THEN go to Auto. The game will upgrade your car from that point up, keeping the custom upgrades you put on yourself ;)

    Having a great time, so glad there are some TOGers into this :)
     
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    Yeah I can not get the starts anywhere near as clean as I'd like. Not an issue if it's a circuit but if it's not I have a second or more to make up. :( Any tips on how to "launch" correctly would be most welcome.

    Not sure what engine I had in it, though I've been mixing things up today. Put my design, or variations of it, on about 5 more cars. :D

    I bought a new car and custom upgraded it in order to beat one of your Rival times today for the Red Rock Rampage (lower left of map). After doing it I noticed I'm rank 2,705 for the world on that race now! It's no wonder I had such a hard time doing it! :p

    I'd be up for some co-op at some stage. I might need a few to sort the headset since I'm not sure you'd hear me speak if I used the normal wireless headset and my home theater setup. ;)
     
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    Getting a FWD off the line is always hard once you go beyond B class but that's just physics for ya :) I was using a RWD car which was not easy to get off the line, but miles better than any FWD car. I typically won't drive anything faster than B in FWD.

    Rivals definitely gets mega hard as you shave seconds off your times. You can normally appreciate the difficulty of the time you are attempting to beat by looking at the bounty. Anything from 7500 up is going to require some concentration and likely take a few tries to get. The guy I mentioned who was in the FM4 top 100 often enough had bounties that would go up to 150,000! I think the best I ever did was 50,000.

    I tried your CCXR - and got a 425kmh on that speed trap at the end of the freeway! It has almost 1000kw! No wonder it is such an animal, I think my most powerful car was around 880kw.

    Ah yes an Xbox headset. My fancy Turtle Beach thing should be able to work with the Xbox but I have yet to try it even though I have owned it for almost a year. Just never needed to use it with the Xbox so far.

    I think I'd still prefer to use my PC and Teamspeak but I understand if your Xbox is some distance from your nearest PC (no laptop?). I've never had an amazing experience with the Xbox Live voice comms. It normally suffices, I just think it's not great.
     

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