Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim... Oh... My... Glob!

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  1. dday_0612

    dday_0612 Well-Known Member

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    Howdy fellow gamers,

    I thought it would be proper to drop by and share my thoughts on Skyrim so far. I am loving it although I have had periods of being underwhelmed that I will explain.

    First and foremost, it is easily the most beautiful game world I have ever seen and the freedom to explore that game world is overwhelming and exhilarating. Visuals and world design are a definite 10/10 for me.

    Storyline is good. I really can’t accurately judge the storyline as I have stayed away from the main quest and been working on guilds and side quests. The side stories are just OK, but I expect the main story to pack a better punch.

    Combat is where I have the most input. Typically, I never play a pure melee/tank character in any game. For some unknown reason, I felt inclined to create an Orc sword/shield tank character. I wanted to be a big brute asshole I guess. I put 12 hours into this character and got up to approx. level 15. Pure melee combat is just OK for me. I am pretty underwhelmed and tend to get bored easily with this character. The fights are very rinse and repeat with very little creativity or planning needed. The slow motion Fallout 3 style kill shots are a good addition, but not enough to make pure melee enjoyable for me. I leveled up armorsmithing pretty high and my character is pretty damn tough. With upgraded Dwarf armor and an upgraded sword, very little can hurt me. But at the early teen levels I found myself being a bit bored with combat…

    So, I decided to try out a pure mage. This changed everything for me. I realize that most of this review is very specific to my play style and my personal preferences in a game. I am sure there are others who love the pure warrior play style. I found myself being much more interested in each fight as a mage. I have many more things to consider. Spell choice is fun to play around with as well as choosing whether to duel wield destruction or keep my left hand for healing? I am also enjoying figuring out what type of magic works best on each specific mob. Overall, the ranged combat is much much more interesting for me. Switching to this character has resolved the few issues I had with the combat in Skyrim. Of course, I am still quite low level, so I will find out later if I still feel the same. I imagine as more spells are learned, there will be more thought involved.

    I also plan to create an archer. After reading all the perks in the game, the archery perk tree looks delicious.

    Obviously, this game is fantastic overall. As a gamer, it usually takes me 10 to 20 hours to find the class combo in RPG’s that best fit my playstyle. I am excited each day to get back into the world, and that very point is enough to judge an RPG or MMO on for me.

    The few silly gripes I can think of right now: There are definitely some bugs, none of them game breaking for me, but annoying. I had a few play sessions that were marred by a handful of crashes to desktop. I have gotten used to the UI, but it is troublesome on the PC for obvious reasons ( UI mods incoming to fix this). Your character does not leave footprints in the snow (this sounds ridiculous, but I was surprised about it). Along the same lines, I would have liked to see the snow in populated areas be more packed and dirty from traffic (like in towns). Very picky I know, none of these things are a big deal.

    Too early to give this game a final score, but it is hovering around a 8.5 to 9/10 at this very moment. I am expecting and hoping that it will be more of a 9.5 after I delve into the main quest line.

    Anyone else have any experience concerning the pure melee game play? I would love to know how you feel about it.
     
  2. Elithawyn

    Elithawyn Well-Known Member

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    I have been playing this game since it released and I am having so much fun it should be illegal !!

    I actually started as a mage and switched to a dual wielding melee fighter. With the power attacks and weapons upgraded, she plows through most mobs before they even get a hit in. I love when the bandits try to pew pew me with their measly bows and I literally walk right up to five of them and kill them all in a few swipes !!

    I just maxed my armorsmithing today and made a set of dragon armor and enchanted it myself. That's fun and surprisingly easy enough once you find enough mines and if you make enough daggers and jewelery.

    Cannot say enough that I adore this game and it is soooo much fun to get lost in :) 10/10 for me.
     
  3. dday_0612

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    I should note something that I just realized: One of the reasons that I am critical of the combat system is that I have been playing Dark Souls for the last month. While Skyrim is overall a better product (IMO) it cannot compete with the combat in Dark Souls. I am probably expecting too much from Skyrim due to this.
     
  4. Bawheidbob

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    From what i have seen/read the combat just seems far too easy with everyone just able to wade into mobs without any fear of death.

    Any thoughts of this at all, came close to buying this game a couple of times today but thinking about it being a little too easy has me worried.
     
  5. Elithawyn

    Elithawyn Well-Known Member

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    I know I made it sound easy enough in my post but keep in mind that's from hours and hours of exploring dungeons and gathering supplies and dragon scales etc to make armor and weapons.

    I died a lot and used potions a lot on my way to being able to take 5 on without thinking about it. Keeping in mind I am still doing lower level quests and magic users still blast me a bit before I get to them, hate frost types because they drain my stamina and slow me down !!

    The story and atmosphere alone is enough to get the game. I highly suggest it.
     
  6. Ebonytears

    Ebonytears Queen of the Abyss Staff Member Moderator

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    My copy has been dispatched!!

    *does a little dance*
     
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    There are enemies that can kill me in 1 or 2 shots, lvl 13 palladin type charcter.

    It just depends, many of the standard enemies you run into in dungeons (which can be lvl capped, I believe) can feel like just pummeling your way through.

    Bad-ass guys at the end usually take some strategy. Not ashamed to say I have died and had to reload several times in these fights.

    I am all melee and have not spent much time on lvling armorer yet. Sounds like Elithawyn has, and is further along in the game.

    Also, you can turn up the difficulty, not sure what it is set at for Elithawyn.
     
  8. Drac

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    I have the difficulty at master level and am playing a straight up assassin. I get my ass kicked all the time. Currently level 16 and rely on potions to aid in stealth and poison arrows/daggers to take down targets. For the end dungeon boss fights, if I've run out of paralysis poison I usually end up quaffing a 10 or more health potions and dropping a summon scroll or two.

    If I encounter an enemy in the open I just run away like the nancy boy elf my character is.

    Whenever I encounter a Dragon I have to lure it to other mobs/npcs so they can tank the damage while I cower behind a rock and shoot it with a few arrows.

    Trust me, this game can be as ridiculously difficult as you want it to be.
     
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  9. Elithawyn

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    I have it set to adept.
     
  10. nietzsche

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    Surprising to hear that you guys are having trouble. I have died a few times on the first time a boss has sprung up but with the destruction mage build I can usually just DPS them down and with light armour I just sprint around them.

    The standard creatures in most dungeons are now 1-3 x 2 handed fireballs and they are dead. They rarely get near me, and I also have a summoned fire demon next to me if they do.

    Sounds like the game is much harder as melee. My 2nd character will be a mohawk haircut 2 handed weapon redman beast who specialises in blacksmithing, archery and maybe a few points in restoration. So that might be a challenge!
     
  11. Drac

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    When you turn the difficulty right up, it gets hard. On the default difficulty I found it yawn inducing. In games like this I never want to feel like I have the advantage. I like feeling as if I only just managed to scrape though because I didn't get seen and managed to land that x6 damage backstab ect.

    The point at which I can stroll into a dungeon without a single ounce of fear is the point that I stop playing the game.
     
  12. Justin Kace

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    Yeah I have definitely hit some fights that I have fail fail failed and eventually left to go level up a bit. And you want to charge in to melee with a dragon? Good on you snack, I've got your back. ;)

    I have two characters now. The lvl 38 dragonscale armour wearing stealth archer who 3-shots giants (but still gets the snot beaten out of her by those forsaken(?) dudes sometimes), and my new lvl 8 orc grunt who I am enjoying playing in a completely different playstyle (cunning but not too intelligent, charge in and just beat on things til they fall down, none of this pansy stealth and alchemy rubbish). I'm hanging out to try pure mage as well.

    I feel the combat difficulty is, for the most part, pretty good. Rank and file enemy are pretty easy (as they should be to a dragonborn hero!) but the bosses are there to remind us we're still mortal.

    I'm slightly puzzled by the fact that with all the detail they have packed into this amazingly crafted world, they have still left out some stuff I would think pretty basic. Footprints in the snow. Breath misting in cold areas! Nothing that is enough to elicit a complaint, just makes me think... With all the effort you went to, why not these things too?
     
  13. Ludy

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    I am going full mage high-elf not very far into game as I had a "I can only confirm I am in a beta" event this last weekend.

    I also find that the default difficulty can be a tad easy. It's a bit harder as a full mage with the robes but not anything too hard. I have been thinking of putting up the difficulty a tick.
     
  14. Stray

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    I think the game pretty much forces you to use magic, some of the bosses really just seem like they won't go down without it so I suspect it'll be easier for a very high level mage than a warrior but at the end of the day I think it's mostly coming down to where you put your perks. Once I got my shield to block 50% elemental damage I felt like a god.
     
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    I'm using a bit of both. I gerally have a mace in one hand and fire in the other. Burn em up a bit and club em if they get too close. Best of both worlds.
     
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    Bah, I wish I could:

    1) play for more than 30 minutes before a CTD occurs
    2) play in eyefinity (crossfire doesn't work and the menus are out of whack and unusuable in 3 screens, although the game is tasty looking)
    3) see 1), these constant CTD's are really annoying me, no error messages, all tweaks attempted, behaviour not replicated in other games including Fallout New Vegas.. Come on AMD, put out the new Radeon drivers already you mongrels..

    Already turned the difficulty up as vanilla was boring(clearing a vamp lair single handed with a pure melee redguard was a bit underwhelming in terms of difficulty).
     
  17. Thermal Ions

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    @Asmodia
    Running a HD5770 on catalyst 11.8 drivers here. I've not looked into it myself as I've had zero crashes, but have heard a number of people comment that the latest driver versions released for Rage / BF3 seem to be the ones giving people the most grief. If appropriate you may wish to downgrade your drivers to an earlier version such as 11.8 to see if it improves stability if you happen to be running a recent version.
     
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    I buckled to temptation and started a mage character as well. She's a snooty alcoholic high elf who wont deign to stoop to the dirtier things in life like alchemy and smithing. Trades are for the plebs!

    However I recently had a bug highlight a bit of a problem with my mage. She seems to be major OP. The story goes a little something like this...

    I returned from the discovery of the orb in the ruins of Saarthur(?) and the Arch Mage thanks me, blah blah blah. At the point where he rewards me for my troubles though, one of the other mages at the college starts pounding me with lightning bolts (even though I'm still mid conversation). I can only assume that it's bugged out and she thinks that I have stolen the reward that I was given. So I fluff about for a while trying to find a solution until frustration leads me to the point where I decide the best solution would be to blow the stupid tart to Oblivion.

    It was then that I found that even at a mere level 6, my minor heal can buff me through anything she throws at me. And it doesn't even dent my mana. Bonus. Not only that, but with heal perma-blazing in one hand, the other is free to dish some damage back! Which I do, by means of firebolts and flame. And even with flame and heal burning constantly my mana is still not going down! Well except when she hits me with a lightning bolt, but it regens back up while still blazing off with both hands!

    Suffice to say, even though I can't actually kill her, I incapped her and another pillock who got in the way of my flame bursts, multiple times before getting bored and legging it. I doubt I have done my prospects at the college much good, and that's a shame because I wanted to complete that chain with my mage... But I don't know what else I can do!
     
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    Wish they would hurry up with the construction set, i'm definitely gonna mod the spiders/bears/tigers as they seem to launch themselves at you from over the hill (spiders esp.) with over the top aggression.

    Running on a single core is very painful, unplayable when there's more than three opponents near water, but Fallout 3 runs like a champ. Time to put this away until my upgrades arrive.
     
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    Finally made it to Solitude... Wow!

    Very very cool game - I've just been losing hours in a blink.
     

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