Actually we have a fairly supportive and efficient leveling and training group on Lionna and will come get you into TOG from the beginning levels ... you don't stay under 20 for very long since we recycle top NG gear, and the grind from 20 to 40 is also shortened because of the strong clan support, grouping and powerleveling. By level 40 you're expected to have saved enough to step into your own C gear and to start returning the clan investment by helping those below you ... and grouping and working toward B gear and castles and seiging etc. if that's your cup of tea. All in all we have a growing and fun group on Lionna. As is common in a group like TOG that leans to the casual, we will bleed some top levels when the more casual and slower pace just doesn't meet their current gaming needs (it's hard to be casual at level 65+) ... but some of us are just stubborn LOL.